Tuesday, October 10, 2006

Profile of a Predator Pastor

This post begins a series of articles dealing with the scourge of predator pastors. In this first of the series, we will address a particular predator pastor. In future articles, we will deal with how these men turn into the monsters they are, why God allows men like this to get into the ministry in the first place, how these wolves find such easy prey in the sheep, who enables these wolves to prey on the sheep, how the wounded can find healing, and what can be done to protect the sheep from predators in the future. We hope it will help!

Is it right to expose an unrepentant pastor in such a public forum as the blog portion of the Internet? This was a question that needed to be answered in my own mind before I set out to write this post. I am not God. Vengeance is not mine. And God did not commission me as His special agent in this matter. So, how can I possibly justify this post?

When a pastor becomes a predator, and when that predator pastor continually attempts to find a new pulpit, and thus new victims, then those who have something to say must speak up. Further silence would be sinful. God’s sheep must be protected from wolves in shepherd’s clothing.

In this case, the predator pastor continuously seeks new pulpits. I have personally been involved in exposing him to two different pulpit committees. A friend of mine got him removed from an interim position in a third church. I was told about a fourth church he applied for, and he currently serves as the assistant pastor and Christian School Administrator in Indiana.

I wrote a letter to the pastor of the church in Indiana. I received no response. If I receive a response, I will note it on this blog. But in the meantime, the case is too grave, the situation too serious, to warrant any further delay. This predator pastor will not stop until he gains another pulpit.

It is impossible to know what church might be next. If, in some small way, this post can be used to alert someone to this dangerous man, then it will have served its purpose. This author has lived in silence with the terrible truth for nearly eighteen years now. I have no personal need to put this out on the Internet. Contrary to what this man has already said, we are not attacking him because he is so “on fire for God”. Despite his charm, despite his impressive resume (which conveniently excludes at least one former church that would expose him for what he is), this man is not a “Man of God” as he would have you think. Nor is the purpose of this article to prevent the work of God. Just the opposite in fact. The purpose of this article is to further the work of God.

The “work of God” as we term it, the ministry of the church, is greatly hindered by predator pastors such as this man. This article is motivated by a desire to see the work of God advanced. And exposing this man will greatly advance the health and prosperity of any church that might be infected by a predator such as this. Dragon slaying is a Christian occupation.

So, the purpose for writing an article like this, and posting it on the Internet where it can easily be discovered by some unsuspecting pulpit committee should be, shall we say, obvious? In this article, we are not trying to destroy a man’s reputation. Rather, we are pointing out the fact that this man has destroyed his own reputation, and refuses to live with it. More importantly, we are protesting the fact that this man, who has already destroyed several lives, continues to seek other lives to destroy. We trust that our protests will not fall on deaf ears.

Nothing that is said here should be misconstrued as a refusal on our part to forgive this pastor. I cannot speak for all who comment, but I can speak for myself. It took many years to deal with his sins in my own heart. As I write this, I believe with all my heart that, by the power of God, I have forgiven him. I know for certain that his sins against us do not compare to our sins against Christ. If Christ has forgiven me, and I believe He has, then I must forgive this man. To refuse him forgiveness would only add sin to the sins that I must be forgiven of. And furthermore, it would bar me from the forgiveness God offers in Jesus Christ. Besides, when I consider what God has forgiven in me, forgiving this man is easy.

Now, down to business. John W. Price pastored the Freedom Baptist Church in Terre Haute, Indiana, for about ten years. My family and I first began to attend the church when I was in the seventh grade, and the church was approaching their third anniversary. At the time, the church met at Howard Johnson’s Motor Lodge in Terre Haute, and was building a new building south of town.

The church experienced phenomenal growth, mostly through the hard work of the people and the charisma of the pastor. For the third anniversary, the church hit a record of over 300 people in the morning service, which was also the first service in the new building. Over the next five years, the church grew to high days above five hundred, added an education wing and a gymnasium, and became somewhat famous throughout the Midwest.

I loved Freedom Baptist Church. And I loved and admired John Price. He was my pastor. For those of my old friends reading this post, I know that we don’t like to admit that we ever liked him. We need to be honest here. Sure, he gave us plenty of reasons to hold grudges. But there was a time when he held our highest admiration. He was our pastor.

And that is exactly what makes his crimes so very heinous. It is one thing for a thirty-five year old man to fall in love with a teen-aged girl. While it seems absurd and unnatural, and forbidden by law, yet a case like that somehow pales in comparison to a pastor who, because of the admiration of those who follow him, takes the opportunity to lure teen-aged girls.

Yes, John Price is a thief. His financial crimes have been well documented in other places (1). If his only sin was embezzlement, perhaps we wouldn’t feel quite so strongly about keeping him out of the ministry. But his crimes against teen-aged girls far outweigh his other failings.

Now, John Price denies any of this. When confronted with this information recently (2) Price claimed that he left the church with every bill paid. And he called preposterous the charges of intercourse with a fifteen-year-old girl (3).

But he did this. There was a day when I became very suspicious that something was going on that shouldn’t be. I heard the low voices – his voice, husky with passion, and another’s… a girl’s voice. Then, silence. My body tensed. I grabbed a club in my hand, and headed down the hallway. I came to the place where the voices were. Afraid, I put down the club. When I looked around the corner, John Price had stepped back. His hands were on her shoulders. He stepped back against her, pulled her to him and put his arms around her. He held her, and she held him. He pulled her close and moved towards her lips…

And I exploded. I stepped around the corner, and screamed at him. Get out of here. Get out now. Surprised, he looked at me. He tried to act like he didn’t know what I was talking about. But I would have none of it. You leave, right now! Go! I pointed at the door. Then, he tried his bully tactic. “You calm down, David. Now sit down. What is your problem?” You know what my problem is. You pervert. Then, the shocked, hurt routine started. He was “as pure as the driven snow, of course”. “I was just giving her a hug and a kiss! I always do that! I’m her pastor!”

Finally, he left, though reluctantly. I wasn’t convinced. I was eighteen. I was stupid, but not that stupid. I knew the difference between a “good-bye” hug and what he was doing, tucked away as they were in a corner.

The next day, I was “talked to”, and told that Price was very “hurt” that I would think so badly of him. I was told that he considered resigning because of the accusation. Good, I said. He should resign. I should have called the police. In fact, I still think I should. He definitely should resign. He shouldn’t be a pastor. Not here, not anywhere.

What more can I say? I saw what I saw, and it was no illusion. At the time, the girl denied vehemently that there was anything happening. So, I dropped it. About five months later, I witnessed Price sitting on a couch between two teen-aged girls, tickling them. I went to various people in the room. They saw what I saw, but they refused to believe anything was going on.

I am ashamed to say that I did nothing. I should have called the police. I should have called the deacons of the church. I should have called other pastors. I did not. Was it fear? Was it intimidation? Was it shame that kept me from it? Whatever it was, I did not do what I should have done.

Some time later, both teen girls confirmed my suspicions. They told me of many, many sexual encounters in his office, in his van behind the church, in his home while babysitting, in their own home. He offered to pay for an abortion for one who thought she was pregnant.

One girl was willing to file charges. The other was too afraid. And so, John Price is a free man. John Price can deny these charges, because they have never been proven in court. John Price can call these charges preposterous. But, on my honor, this happened.

I wonder where else he will do this. Maybe he already has. Maybe there are others. Maybe not. Price does not believe that we are serious, dead serious, about keeping him out of the ministry. So, this might come as a surprise to him, that we are out here, and we won’t go away. I’m guessing that there might be some out there who are willing to put their name on a comment, and show their support of this article. You maybe can’t vouch for everything here, but you could say something. I’m sure that you are willing to vouch for the fact that John Price should not be in the ministry. Maybe I’m wrong. I would invite you to make a comment on this post. Spread the word. I know that several of you read this. Go ahead and say something. It’s safe! I’ll leave comment moderation on in order to insure integrity, but all comments will be posted unless they are absolutely inappropriate.

What about you, John Price? I know you’ll be reading this. Will you take the opportunity to clear your name? Or to smear mine? Either way, you are welcome to comment here.

Matthew 18:6 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.

If you are considering John Price for a pastoral position, or for that matter, for any position, please hear what I am saying. Please contact me. This is important.

Footnotes:

(1) A major news source did a report in the early 1990’s on Price’s financial mismanagement of Freedom Baptist, mismanagement that led to the eventual bankruptcy and foreclosure of the church property to attempt recovery of around $750,000 in debts. ***(Edited October 11, 2006) I have been informed that the church did not declare bankruptcy, nor did it foreclose. The leadership of the church sold the property in order to settle all debts, which (if I understand correctly) were paid in full.

(2) Two weeks ago, a church in Michigan that was considering Price for the pastorate confronted him about this information. He, of course, denied everything, stating, “I’m as pure as the driven snow!”

(3) Charges were filed at the Vigo County Sheriff’s Office in Terre Haute, Indiana.

This post was edited by the author on March 21, 2012. Names were removed.

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Blogger Dave Mallinak said...

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Tuesday, October 10, 2006 4:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Jessica Baker said...

David, I can also vouch for most of what you have written. I admit it tore my heart out to read some of the more lurid details concerning those two girls (some of my dearest friends at Freedom).

But none of it is surprising. I have personally seen the police report about molestation and have seen all the financial documents.

John Price should be in jail. I hope he is reading this.

I, Jessica Poett Baker, am appalled that he continues to seek a pastorate or any spiritual leadership position. I hope his pastor at Greenwood prayerfully considers your letter, David.

It has taken me many years to overcome the hyper-fundamentalist mindset but praise God, He continually gives grace. My husband and I have been blessed to have been in solid IFB churches where the pastor is a shepherd and not a butcher.

I support you, David and you know my mother and father do as well. The Poes are in agreement also. We will do whatever is necessary to keep John Price out of another pastorate.

Tuesday, October 10, 2006 7:54:00 PM  
Blogger 88keys said...

As the oldest daughter of one of the former deacons at Freedom Baptist Church, I must say that I am proud that men like my Dad and Dave continue to stand up warn others about this dangerous, dangerous man. Many lives were ruined and many relationships were broken because of John Price. My Dad has made it his mission to hunt John Price down and warn churches and ministries about his escapades. I'm so glad that Dave does the same thing.
I pray that God will see fit to bring justice during our lifetime......

Tuesday, October 10, 2006 7:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Jessica Baker said...

I forgot to mention that I can add to those stories about the two teenage girls if you care to hear them. I don't know what good it will do to know them but I will tell them if you want to know. It is just stuff that I saw, wondered about, but said nothing in my naivity as a teen girl.

Yes, David, I have forgiven John Price also. Only God's grace can make that happen. While we were all affected, he most assuredly sinned against your family more than anyone else's at Freedom.

While I agree with you that we are to forgive, we are also to warn others of the wolves. And John Price is 100% wolf.

Tuesday, October 10, 2006 8:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Suzy said...

A very courageous post this was... may God use it to protect others so they will not have to experience what you, and what some teenage girls, had to experience.

Tuesday, October 10, 2006 9:02:00 PM  
Blogger Kent Brandenburg said...

I support what you are doing.

Tuesday, October 10, 2006 9:20:00 PM  
Blogger Throwback 13 said...

* I've read your posting. There isn't much I can say that will add positively to the situation, except to say, "I do and will support you."
* If you had gone to the police, you would probably have been dismissed. Going to your parents was the right choice, and it seems that the pastor took care of that by going to them first. (He was afraid of you.)

Wednesday, October 11, 2006 1:10:00 AM  
Blogger 88keys said...

I failed to "sign" my previous post. I am Melissa Poett Penalver. Dave, thank you for taking a stand.

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."

Wednesday, October 11, 2006 7:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have heard some of this through the Bakers and several others who know of his reputation - though mostly the situation was referred to and not the pastor's actual name. Now, I don't know Dave beyond the various websites I have read his posts and comments - but from what I have seen, I link to him because I have firmly come to believe he is a solid brother in Christ.

That being said, I am 100% for exposing anything like this in whatever church it goes on in. Yes, to shut up and just let it slide or to brush it under the rug is just plain evil! It is loving the wolves more than the sheep - and that is an abomination in God's eyes. So I am glad you have taken whatever steps were within your power to do something about this. Ezekiel 34 is a very good chapter on showing God's view of the pastor who fleeces the flock (in whatever sense he does so).

Thanks for taking a stand to be a good shepherd and look out for other sheep! God bless.

Wednesday, October 11, 2006 11:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Chris Poett said...

David, We too support you in this. My husband and I are as adamant as you are that this man should never be in a pulpit again. C. Poett

Wednesday, October 11, 2006 1:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Suzy said...

I wanted to add that I personally know and have heard from one of the teenagers who were raped by this man and can also vouch, along with the others, that this is true.

Wednesday, October 11, 2006 7:04:00 PM  
Blogger Cathy said...

Thank You Pastor Mallinak for taking a stand where others have failed. I truly appreciate it.

Wednesday, October 11, 2006 10:09:00 PM  
Blogger Cathy said...

Pastor Mallinak said

"You maybe can’t vouch for everything here, but you could say something. "

I wasn't going to say anything about my experience, but after rereading this I feel I must.

I also went to Freedom Baptist Church. I was a poor buskid. I had no future but the squallor I was raised in. Freedom Baptist Church gave me hope. I was saved already, but the church gave me hope, it showed me love and kindness and taught me about Christ.

I grew as a Christian through the love and nurturing of many of the members and even friends such as Pastor Mallinak and the Poett girls and such.

I went off to Bible College at Fairhaven Baptist College for 3 semesters. I left because John Price could not keep his hands off of me. When he would come up and visit, he would want to counsel me, and he would, then he would tell me things like how much he loved me and was proud of me, start kissing and touching me. The last time, fall of 1990, he came up and visited, the kissing and petting went to an extreme. I always thought it was because he just loved me like a daughter, that was what he said and what I believed. But the last time his kissing was more passionate and his hands all over me. I knew that this was much different and wrong. No father sticks his tongue down his daughters mouth and cops a feel.

I told a staff member at Fairhaven. I wasn't believed. I was told that I was probably just mistaken that he loves me like a daughter. A couple of months went by, I couldn't get over the last meeting with him. Other things arose and I decided to take a semester break, that was all I was going to do in the beginning, was take a break.

John Price called me up, chewed me out, then beg me to stay. He told me he would be there in a few months permanently and take good care of me. A few days later I left Bible College for good. I was scared to be around him.

His actions has affected me greatly. I left God's will because I was scared to be around this man. I was molested by many growing up, so I wasn't naive by this kind of stuff. The last thing I wanted was be known as some adulterous girl that made a "Man of God" fall. What I wanted was to serve the Lord in fulltime Christian service, marry a pastor be a good Christian wife and mother. John Price has caused tremendous pain and suffering in my life.

I will never be a pastor's wife or work in fulltime Christian service because I quit. But because of God's grace and mercy towards me I can strive to a be good Christian wife and mother.

I want to also say, I was bitter and full of much hate to Fairhaven Baptist College and towards Dr. Voegtlin for a longtime. But the Lord once again has intervened and the hate has turned to forgiveness and love. I have been a member for 3 years at this church and I absolutely love being here.

I admit I still struggle with bitterness and hate towards John Price. And I do need help in this area.

Cathy Catterson McNabb, RN

Bus kids do grow up!!!!!!!!!!

Wednesday, October 11, 2006 10:52:00 PM  
Blogger Sandi said...

I would agree with you to expose the wolves. They are overpowered by strongholds of the demonic. Without repentance he doesnt have a deliverance. I know that many people have demons of lust, pedophilia etc. Jesus said that to get rid of the stronger types a fast is required. I went into a three day spirit led fast for someone and the person is now clean.
I am amazed that he has become a pastor without being detected under the radar of leadership. A spirit filled person usually develops discernment towards things of the spiritual nature.

Thursday, October 12, 2006 3:07:00 AM  
Blogger Bob M said...

Brother, I support you. This is brave and God is pleased with truth being shone around.
I am not afaid to post my name and stand with you.
Bob Meredith
Golden Valley, MN

Thursday, October 12, 2006 8:25:00 AM  
Blogger Dave Mallinak said...

I messed something up --- being the technologically challenged blogger that I am, I somehow lost a comment. I don't know where it went, but I know it went. It was a good comment, encouraging, from a friend of a friend. I looked at the name, but it was forgotten. If I didn't post your comment, would you please come back and say it again? Thank you!

Thursday, October 12, 2006 8:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

David I appreciate your candor and concern I know of another who completely destroyed a church of 250 he sduced many of the women and others he just threatened them with their life or the lives of their children. No one came forward, no one called the police and now he is free. I read your post because it sounded like they may be the same man. Unfortunately they are not.

Grace to you

Thjplgvp

Thursday, October 12, 2006 11:04:00 AM  
Anonymous pneu-engine said...

[quote]I messed something up --- being the technologically challenged blogger that I am, I somehow lost a comment. I don't know where it went, but I know it went. It was a good comment, encouraging, from a friend of a friend. I looked at the name, but it was forgotten. If I didn't post your comment, would you please come back and say it again? Thank you!

[/quote]


It was from pneu-engine. I cannot remember all that I wrote (((it's the senior moment thing. :wink: lol ))) but will try to put together what I said previously. It went something like this:::::::::::

Good morning Dave,

You don't know me, but I know some of your friends, so I'm coming to you as a friend of a friend.

This is a very great and wonderful undertaking in which you are engaged. My hat's off to you. Would to God we had many more like you. We could turn the whole world upside down. A dispensation of great responsibility is laid upon us that name the Name of Christ to stand up and be counted, and to expose the snakes in lamb's clothing. You are doing just that. I wish that it were in my power to come alongside you and physically assist you with actual "leg-work" in anything you would need to be done. Since that is not possible, please know that I am praying for you with all of my heart and soul. I'm praying that God will:::::::::::::

***Give you strength and encouragement, brother Dave, as you work for the LORD in all that you do.

***Give strength and fortitude to all of those men and ladies who can testify against John Price in a court of law.

***Give comfort to the young ladies that have been violated with the intent that full and complete healing can occur.

***Bring strong conviction upon John Price so that he will drop to his face in the dust and repent and turn himself into the authorities.

***Give the young ladies that have been molested The spiritual stamina to come forward and be willing to take a stand against John Price with the intent that he be brought fully to justice and convicted.

***A hedge of protection around all those to whom John Price goes to, contacts, or in anywise applies for hire.

***Bring complete and comprehensive knowledge to the entire Christian community so that they may beware of John Price and his evil ways.

...and many other such-like things too numerous to mention.

Thursday, October 12, 2006 11:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Jessica Baker said...

I am going to post the things I saw and heard. I do not wish to hurt the victims by bringing these things up again. My intention, along with the others who have posted experiences, is to warn. Future pulpit committees, BE WARNED!

1. When I was a senior in high school, I helped out in the office. I recall seeing Price smack one of the secretaries on the behind one time. The three adults who were in the office at the time (Price, the secretary and the main secretary) thought it was funny.

2. After the staff left the church, I remember the deacons finding old phone bills with calls to 1-900 numbers (porn and sports gambling) on them. How dare anyone blaspheme God and His work in such a way!

3. I remember many youth activities to amusement parks like Kings Island and Six Flags. Some of us girls always hung out together and would ride the same rides when possible. Mainly, it was the girls in my grade who included the twins, myself and one of the girls who was violated. John Price always rode the boat style rides with us – the kind where the riders have to sit in single file. I was always in the front, one of the twins behind me, the other twin behind her, then the girl with John Price behind her. He would reach up and tickle us all. We would giggle and squirm. I would look peripherally to see if anymore tickles were coming my way and when he wasn’t tickling, John Price had his arms around the girl in front of him. She was always leaned back against him in between his legs and his arms were wrapped tightly around an area of her body where no man should be touching someone to whom they are not married. I saw this in broad daylight and would wonder when the boat went into the tunnel, in the dark, what else was going on. I saw this many times with this girl and once with a younger girl. On our senior trip this happened often as well. Every night of our senior trip, the twins and I would be left alone in our motel room while the other girl was called out. We were told she had to go play UNO with the other adults on the trip. Somehow, I seriously doubt that now. Again, this is not meant to be critical of the girl at all. This is all on John Price’s head. I completely understand the cultic mentality we all had. You didn’t question “Preacher”. Whatever “Preacher” did or said was ok.

4. I remember Price went to Fairhaven to be on staff there in the Spring of 1991. Wow, what a going-away party we gave him! My parents still have the pictures. That information should be helpful the next time Price tells a pulpit committee that the Freedom Baptist deacons ran him off.

5. Our school went to Preaching Conference at Fairhaven in April of 1991. By this time, most of the deacons had begun finding out much of what had been going on. Price got wind of it and called a deacon meeting. Keep in mind that he was no longer the pastor of Freedom Baptist Church. However, the assistant he left in charge was just a weak-minded puppet who did anything and everything Price said. So Price called a deacon meeting because two of the deacons were already up there to watch their kids perform in the competitions. Price told his weak-minded assistant that the deacons that were present better show up. Actually he yelled this and looked directly at me. I was sitting in a pew nearby waiting for the service to start. If he wanted me to inform my dad, then he succeeded. I told my dad what happened and he refused to go to the meeting. LOL Price sent his weak-minded assistant to my dad’s motel room to “make him come”. Dad said he wasn’t coming and the weak-minded assistant went to the manager for a key and opened the door himself. Dad told him to leave and that he wasn’t going to any “meeting” when all the deacons weren’t present.


6. I personally saw John Price threaten his assistant’s job if he didn’t produce at least one candidate for baptism one Sunday. The child who was brought in had been “baptized” at least 5 times already. It was all done for show so our church could boast that we had at least one person baptized every Sunday.


7. I heard my former principal who was also John Price’s brother-in-law that after the soulwinning get-together on Saturday Mornings, John Price had him go back to his house with him to play computer games. The man always felt guilty about this and went out on his own after he left Price’s house.

8. I heard my former principal who is also John Price’s brother-in-law say that after the Saturday morning soulwinning meetings, John Price would tell him to go home with him to play computer games. He would always feel guilty about this and would go out soulwinning on his own afterwards.


These are things I saw and heard. There is much more but unfortunately I cannot post them because I personally didn’t see or hear them. Technically it would be speculation on my part to post them. Maybe some others can come forward.

Thursday, October 12, 2006 12:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Julie Clark said...

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Thursday, October 12, 2006 2:07:00 PM  
Blogger Dave Mallinak said...

I've tried to figure out how to edit comments, but I can't. Sorry. You could trash it (hit the trash can image) and re-write it.

Thursday, October 12, 2006 2:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Jessica Baker said...

There is no trash can image. Oh well. Keeps me humble. I can't stand typos and now I have a major one. HAHA

Thursday, October 12, 2006 3:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

People in these churches - ARISE AND MAKE THESE MEN ACCOUNTABLE!! We are involved in the Bob Gray/Tom Messer mess in Jax., Fl. It is unbelievable but the WOLF is loved and treasured above the SHEEP - ESPECIALLY THE SMALL INNOCENT DEFENSELESS ONES!!!! Why have we bought into the conspiracy of silence when we should be exposing evil and holding all leaders accountable! Keep up the good work of dispensing TRUTH thru the internet. Praying for everyone involved in this and for God's courage and strength to be very real to them.

Thursday, October 12, 2006 4:36:00 PM  
Blogger Terry McGovern said...

WOW!

Churches need to be warned! As a father of three daughters I would want to know this knowledge, of any man, who was candidating at a church I was a memeber of.

To often the pastor's of IFB churches are untouchable. It is as if, no sinful accustation is to be believed. Yet, the Bible states if there are at least two or three witnesses, then the elder needs to be rebuked before all! If the first church would have followed the Biblical principal all the future pain could have been avoided.

I appreciate Bro Mallinak sounding the warning.

Thursday, October 12, 2006 5:39:00 PM  
Blogger Cathy said...

The problem Bro Terry, is the 2-3 witnesses. Not to sound crude here, but what pastor is going to have a group encounter? Thus the 2-3 witnesses isn't applicable.

I was told a few years back that if the same thing happened again, that happened to me, in my church the pastor would be believed before the accuser.

I don't understand this? Why is a "Man of God" believed over a victim? The way I see it, I was just a ragtag buskid that was just looking for trouble, instead of a victim that should have been believed.

I am not saying that everybody should be believed that makes a claim like this. I am not naive to realize that false accusations are not possible. However, they should have been looked at and not brushed to the side because I was a buskid. I will say in all fairness, Dr. Voegtlin didn't know about the situation. At the time I was in school, there was never access to him. Students had to go through the chain of command to even talk to him. I am not saying this was his doing, but it was what was presented to us. It was as if the assistant pastors and staff at that time was building a hedge around Dr. Voegtlin and not telling him everything that was going on. He was completely in the dark in my scenerio.

I say this because I think it is very important that when someone makes a claim of sexually inappropiateness towards another, that both sides are investigated, not blown off because one person is a nobody, and another is a big bad pastor.

The fact one is believed over another because He is a pastor is wrong. It hurts and destroys innocent lives. It destroyed mine.

Thursday, October 12, 2006 9:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Keep up the good work. My daughter was offended by a pervert Pastor just like this Price guy. He is, as well, I'm sure buying time until he gets back behind a pulpit. Only he was arrested, and pled guilty, and is on the sex offenders list. Not repentant though, you have to ask someone to forgive you to be forgiven, not go around town and say you were set up.....sigh. But he is being supported by IFB Pastors that believe his BULL. Any way, God is on your side. Blessing to you.
SILENCE PROTECTS NO ONE AND PUTS EVERYONE AT RISK.

Thursday, October 12, 2006 11:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I Stacey Poe Arrowood, fully support the cause of keeping this predator pastor out of a pulpit. What a phenominial blog. After I read the blog, and the comments that followed, I truly became sick to my stomach. He was our pastor.... how could this have happened, I was asking myself still yet today. My dad a former deacon, Sunday school teacher, bus captain... my mom a Sunday school teacher and a nursery worker. We were "heavily" involved in this church. I attended the graduated from the academy, and so did my brother. I was in Terre Haute this August to visit my parents. We went shopping in the south end of town... as we neared the shopping center, my heart sank... the old church used to sit there.... what wonderful memories flooded my soul...but, soon the not so wonderful memories followed. He was our pastor...someone that we were supposed to listen to, trust, look up to. I remember I was so proud when I went to Bible college at HAC, afterall that is where our pastor went.We (myself and others that attended HAC) were so proud when he started teaching a class at HAC on Tuesdays.... we would write on the board we love you preacher. We were so proud when he was a speaker in chapel.... we sat on the front row.... he was OUR preacher. How could a "man of God" go so terribly wrong? I still struggle today. I have NOT forgiven him, and do not know if I ever will be able to. I do not attend church on a regular basis... I know that I am supposed to... it is hard for me to put any kind of trust in a church, I am always skeptical as to the motives of the church. I hope one day that I can come to terms with this. My husband and I are looking for a church...and have a few that we would like to check out. My brother was affected as well.... I guess that I get some comfot in knowing the fact the HE WILL have to answer to our Lord one day... no more lying. I have a audio tape that was made shortly after he left. The deacons were interviewing the former asst. pastor, about some of the things that went on. It is very interesting.... I will have to listen to it again, and the post about what is on the tape... it is interesting, and some has already been discussed in the blog, and the comments. Thank you Dave fro taking a stand.... He affected so many people. There were many many good Godly people that attended that church.... I am glad that I am able to stay in contact with some of them.... Thank you for posting this blog where John Price can be exposed for what he really is.

Friday, October 13, 2006 8:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I want to thank you for writing this article.
I have some family members that are involved with the Bob Gray case in Florida. It seems like when you stand for what is right Biblically that people attack you personally. We know of people that have had threats to them or their families because of the cas in Florida.
I'm currently a pastor in the South. Before this position, I was a pastor in Kentucky. I had an assistant pastor with me at that location. His wife had an affair with a man in our church. They left to go to another ministry in the mid-west. When their current pastor asked me about this couple, I explained the whole situation concerning the lady involved. (I want to insert this also - She never got it right with the church, my family, or the other man's family!) The pastor said that he could help her through this dilemna. He also made this statement, "I know she was wrong, but I'm not going to tell anyone what she did - NOT EVEN MY WIFE!" She is currently working with a church again and it's only a matter of time before she does it again.
As I said before, I am a pastor of a IFB church but watching how other pastors handle situations - IT IS APPALLING! Let's follow the Bible and not a person!

Friday, October 13, 2006 9:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Jessica Baker said...

Cathy said 2-3 witnesses. Back then each witness was singular and wouldn't have been believed anyway. The wolf was definitely loved over the sheep by all the other pastors who heard about this. "Just sweep it under the rug", they said.

Now we have many witnesses and if they would all get together, something might happen. But I believe the statute of limitations for rape and sexual harrassment in Indiana has expired. I'm not sure on that though; it might be worth checking.

There is much more to this sordid story. I'm working on getting others to post what they know. John Price has disqualified himself over and over again. He should never be in the ministry again.

Friday, October 13, 2006 12:39:00 PM  
Blogger Dave Mallinak said...

With apologies to the commentor who attended Freedom sporadically over a ten year period: I could not post your comment because it contained speculations about Price that were unwarranted. You are free to wonder what you want, but not out loud on this site.

We will not turn this into a guessing game about what else Price might have done. What he has done is bad enough. What he is doing (in trying to find another church to pastor) is terrible, and he must be stopped. But we don't need to play "how bad do we think he might be".

The mind has an uncanny ability to speculate when once the imagination gets involved.

Blessings!

P.S. I am adding a footnote in the main post.

Friday, October 13, 2006 1:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Brother, I do not know Mr. Price but I am living through a situation at the present time that sounds almost identical. I do not wish to give my name now since my church is in the middle of legal proceedings where our former pastor has been indicted by a grand jury on 7 sexual & abuse felony charges against 5 teens (boys & girls)and will be going to court this month to be given a trial date. Of course he has pleaded not guilty and requested a trial by jury. The reason that I had to comment on your situation is to encourage you to keep up the good work. If Pastor's like these are not exposed, they will continue to abuse. A year ago, my ex-Pastor was confronted by the deacons and myself (I was an associate pastor at the time) concerning a criminal investigation that had been started by man whose son the Pastor had abused. After about 5 minutes of discussion, he lost his temper, resigned, and walked out of the meeting. About 3 weeks later he tried to call a business meeting at church and get the congregation to vote him back into office but that did not work. He then went about 2 mile down the road and started a new church to which about 100 people followed him. As he awaits trial today, he is still pastoring and in charge of a christian school. Some of the people who left with him have told me themselves that it doesn't matter if he's guilty, they will follow him anyway. We are an independent, fundamental, Baptist Church and the events that have happened to you have been dublicated in the church I attend. Please pray for us as we seek God's will for a new Pastor, that we will have the mind of Christ. I'm ashamed to say, what we have experienced seems to be happening more and more. God bless you my Brother, you're doing the right thing. May the Lord Bless you.

Friday, October 13, 2006 3:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dave,

Thank you so much for taking this stand not just against Price but all who would do such a thing, or even seek cover up such a thing.

It speaks so loudly that even Pastor's have a responsibility to guard their flock against this evil even amongst the local church membership in independant baptist churches.

I was recently informed of a pastor who knew a young girl in his congregation was being molested by her father, was approached with the matter by the distraught mother and the pastor did nothing but wait, let the issue get sidelined and the molestations continued, under his advice to the mother to wait for him to actbefore going to the police. I am sure that pastor will be reading this comment too and I pray he will seek the same forgiveness and boldly confront and lay out these things in his congregation so that it never happens again.

I am so thankful that you have laid this out so carefully and accurately. I pray this man and many others like him, or cover up these things will never be able to take a pastorate or leadership position again.

If we know such things are going on would you recommend we go to the police first or would you recommending going to trusted church leadership and let them handle it?

I know 1 Corinthians 6 says "Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints? Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?"

Would that apply to this as a first response or should we call law enforcement?

Thank You

Saturday, October 14, 2006 1:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wouild like to thank you for your honesty. Hiding these "wolves" is a ploy from the evil one - whether it be in an independent baptist church, a southern baptist church, a catholic church, a community church, or any other church! As one who was severely abused as a teenage girl by her youth pastor, I feel a passion to get the word out.
Thank you for exposing this man. Once again, your honesty and forthrightness are applauded.

Saturday, October 14, 2006 6:35:00 PM  
Blogger Dave Mallinak said...

There are many "anonymous" comments here, so I can hardly start a response with "Dear Anonymous" (wink!) But you asked a question (two comments before this) about whether you should go to the police or not. Romans 13 puts the responsibility for these things squarely on the shoulder of the civil authority, and you must take it to them. The context of I Corinthians 6 shows that the Corinthians were taking each other before the magistrate on very petty civil matters. In those cases, the church is competent to judge. But child molestation is a serious, criminal matter, and must be taken to the magistrate.

The pastor and church staff are "mandatory reporters" in these cases. That means when they hear of a case of child abuse, they are required to take it to the civil authorities.

If you have gone to the pastor, and he has not dealt with it, I think the next step would be to go to the deacons and ask them to go with you to the pastor, following Matthew 18. This does not need to take weeks, it should be done in a day. If the pastor still refuses to deal with it, then I think you would be right to report it yourself.

On the other hand, I have to ask why this mother has not yet gone to the police herself. She was right to go to the pastor, and the pastor would be right to investigate. But when the pastor clearly is not investigating, why hasn't she gone directly to the police?

I hope that answers your question. Go to the deacons, and if that doesn't work, go to the police. Make sure you tell the church leadership that this is what you will be doing.

Saturday, October 14, 2006 9:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Katy-Anne said...

As a person that has suffered sexual abuse I fully support what you are doing.

Katy-Anne

Monday, October 16, 2006 1:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does it acytaully suprise you that Todd Poynter would hire this guy? It doesnt me. I wouldnt give a rats behind for anyone who ever was,has been or continues to be associated with FBC Hammond or HAC.

Wednesday, October 18, 2006 3:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Julie Clark said...

I, Julie Womack Clark, fully support what you are doing to prevent future crimes against young girls by John Price.

Wednesday, October 18, 2006 3:41:00 PM  
Blogger Rob Waters( UndertheBridge ) said...

First things first I have an unbelievable number of things to say about John "the rapist" Price. Yes I said rapist I used to really hold a huge grudge for the god forsaken man, but as the years and years went by I learned that john will and is paying for his sins that he committed, not only against the teenage girls but also with other women in the church. How many lives will he have to ruin before he is going to go back to the basics of just serving God and doing what is right? God blessed him with a wife, children and the ability to serve him whole heartedly. I would LOVE for nothing more than to stand in front of him with a baseball bat and make him face his victims one by one no matter how many there are. Was his wife not enough for him was serving God and being called to preach and spread the good word and leading souls to Christ not enough for him? Why did this man have such a problem with molesting teenage girls and married women, who he had an absolute and complete control over. He did whether we want to admit it or not. He use and abused his powers from the pulpit and said one thing and did the complete opposite. He made us kids feel like if you do something of this nature that you were the worst person in the world, and yet this man is frequently taking a premeditated look at what young girls he could take advantage of. This was not by accident this was a planned out and well thought out design of whom he could get to release his sexual carnal urges against. Why were we so scared of this man and there is a difference between respect and scared. Enough of my ramblings for the time being I will repost in a couple of days as I have had time to think and collect my thoughts and appropriately speak them. I will add this as one who went to church, school there and was not very well liked so I was considered an outsider until I was needed to do something such as dig ditch's and play basketball or something of that nature, I got to see and hear a lot of things there that I never should have witnessed. I have tons of stories to tell and let be heard. For the record I hold no grudges towards anyone there or anyone that I ever came in contact with. Now David I think that you are doing a great job in the ministry and by doing this to warn people, family friends and any and everyone involved in church to keep this predator out of the pulpit and then OUR next step should be either get that man in JAIL or get him counseling as he did us and get his life right with God. I will be trying to post once a week if this is ok with you? Keep up the good work with what you are doing. God Bless You and you family and your ministry. If you or anyone have any questions for me any at all feel free to send me an email: Junior7279@aol.com ,
Your Brother in Christ Rob Waters

Wednesday, October 18, 2006 11:20:00 PM  
Blogger Dave Mallinak said...

Rob, I'll be contacting you soon. It is nice to hear from you, and yes, you are welcome to say what you need to say.

And God bless you...

Thursday, October 19, 2006 1:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Jessica Baker said...

[quote]Anonymous said...
Does it acytaully suprise you that Todd Poynter would hire this guy? It doesnt me. I wouldnt give a rats behind for anyone who ever was,has been or continues to be associated with FBC Hammond or HAC. [quote]


Anyone who ever was? Now that's an interesting comment because all of us ex-Freedomites were at one time associated with FBCH and HAC in one way or another. Once the blinders came off though, many of us ran for our life and never looked back.

And no, it doesn't surprise me that Todd Poynter hired Price. That crowd protects its own. Mark Rasmussen may have said that he didn't give his "highest recommendation" and to "call the church in Terre Haute" but pray tell, whom exactly would he have the pulpit committee call? Mark Rasmussen knows full well the church is no longer in existance.

It boggles my mind the way immorality in the some IFB pulpits is covered up, looked over, ignored, etc. The preachers will rail on it from the pulpits and publicly malign anyone in their church who falls but if they do it or their son does it or a favorite staff member does it then it is hushed up, paid off or just swept under the rug.

BLAMELESS! A bishop (pastor) must be blameless. Period.

Thursday, October 19, 2006 4:00:00 PM  
Blogger Cathy said...

Pastor Mallinak,
It does appear you opened a can of worms. A can that needed to be open. May I ask how do you intend on feeding the worms?

What do I mean? Yes, what John Price did was, is horrible. He has hurt alot of people. He has gave christianity and fundamentalism a black eye in our hometown.

Many of us still struggle with the hurt and deception from him. Some don't go to church, others, will not even consider a church that is fundamental in any way, truly convinced all IFB churches are cults, even like the one you pastor, with standards and all. Others such as myself lash out with bittnerness and anger at every little thing.

I dare ask, at what point do we take responisibility for own own spiritual health? When do we stop blaming John Price and start accepting personal responsibility, for our christianity? I know it personally has taken me many years to go back to church, even a IFB church. I understand the fear of trusting in a "Man of God". I also know I didn't want John Price to win and destroy me. I am damanged, but I am not defeated by his sin.

So Pastor Mallinak a quetion for you? Do you intend on feeding the worms you freed, or will victims remain victims with the awful reminder of what John Price did, and no godly counsel to see them thru?

The ball is in your court.........

Friday, October 20, 2006 9:42:00 AM  
Blogger JAmie said...

Most of u probably won't remember me but I went to FBCA and I was young but was never exposed to any of this. I always thought that things were not right there but I was young so who was gonna listen to me or understand me. After I grew up and started hearing of all the stuff that johnPrice"the holy man" lol had done I was furious but at the same time I thanked God that i wasnt exposed to this stuff. I remember praying to God and saying" LEt him serve his time and get whats coming to him." Take the predators off the streets and out of the churches.

Friday, October 20, 2006 10:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Someone close to me (who knows that John Price sexually assaulted me many years ago) just told me about this blog an hour ago. I was stunned.

I knew John was a pervert, but was too intimidated to tell anyone. I knew no one would believe me. Dave, you have taken one layer of pain off of my heart with what you've done.

I see that there have been no comments for a few months, and I do hope you're still fighting for the cause of bringing this sick, awful man to the light of day. The light of God's Truth.

I am perhaps unique in this forum because I was not a member of John's church. I'm someone who was attacked numerous times by him when I was 13. I was just at the point where girls start wondering about their sexuality and their attractiveness. I despise him for what he did to me. I have not yet forgiven him, but with God's grace I will someday.

This sickness has been with John his entire life. When he was attacking me, I was 13 and he was 16. This may not seem as "serious" as a full grown man attacking a child. But for me, it has been a dark spot on my heart for 35 years. I have felt especially sick to my stomach when I see him with his own daughters. I've always been terrified that they were victims too.

I'm simply amazed at the many people who have come forward.

Thank you for a place to speak the truth. I'm leaving my name off because my family still lives in John's hometown, and I don't wish to embarrass them.

Tuesday, May 08, 2007 9:35:00 PM  
Blogger Dave Mallinak said...

Anonymous,

Thank you for coming forward. We suspected that this has been the case, that John has been doing this for a long time.

I hope in some small way, it has been a help. God has been good in that John (so long as I know) has left the ministry. He needs to stay away from children. With God's help, we will keep him out.

I'll be writing more later.

Wednesday, May 09, 2007 11:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dave,

You have no idea how helpful this is to me. Thank you and God bless you.

Wednesday, May 09, 2007 5:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear Pastor Dave,

Reading your article felt like taking an Alka Seltzer! I am going through with a predator pastor now and I've been struggling so much...
Thanks for your articles.

Thursday, June 14, 2007 12:47:00 PM  
Blogger Hope said...

Dear Pastor Dave,

Reading your article felt like taking an Alka Seltzer.

I am going through tough times now with a predator pastor now. My struggle with faith, why, all these questions were some what answered.

If you could can you drop me a note?

God Bless.

Thursday, June 14, 2007 1:05:00 PM  
Blogger Hope said...

Dear Pastor Dave,

Reading your article was like taking an Alka Seltzer. I am going through with a predator pastor now and I’ve been struggling with so many questions. You have answered some and it’s been very helpful. If you could, please drop me a note. Thank you,

God Bless.

Thursday, June 14, 2007 1:12:00 PM  
Blogger Dave Mallinak said...

Hope, I'm not sure how to drop you a line, but if you give me an e-mail address, I will be glad to.

Saturday, June 16, 2007 10:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would like to remain anonymous in this public forum because the person I am writing about would be hurt if I left my name.

My family and I attended FBC and Academy for almost 10 years. We were heavily involved. I can remember many, MANY times as a child waiting for my mother to finish "counseling" with Pastor Price. My sister and brother and I (all under 10 years old) were left for hours by ourselves out in the foyer area - where that scenic mural was on the wall and there was a seating area. I used to hate it. I never understood why we had to sit there for so long, so often.

After about 10 years of silence, my mother opened up to me about what had happened to her. John Price asked her to come in for counseling. At that first session, he forcibly raped her. He then blamed her and threatened to expose her. He insisted that she come back for counseling and continued to rape her each time. He used his position and power and persuasion to rape my mother many times over several years.

My father still does not forgive her. Nearly 20 years later, it still haunts her today.

I appreciate this site and support you, David, in your efforts.

Thursday, August 16, 2007 4:16:00 PM  
Blogger Dave Mallinak said...

Anonymous,

I'm sorry I left your comment unposted for so long. I've taken the month off from blogging, and so I haven't been checking.

Thanks for coming on board. If I can do anything for you, please contact me. You can drop me an e-mail if you like.

Meanwhile, I trust that God will grant you the healing you need.

Saturday, August 25, 2007 10:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is this the John Price from Kentucky? If so this is the same man that came to a church I used to attend. I had heard these things about this before, wondering if its the same man?

Monday, October 01, 2007 8:18:00 AM  
Blogger Dave Mallinak said...

I don't know, anonymous. The John Price I am speaking of is from Brazil, Indiana, and formerly pastored in Terre Haute.

Tuesday, October 02, 2007 10:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear Dave,

I am a victim . I was a poor bus kid as well. It happened when I was about 10 or 12.

A pastor came around our neighborhood, far on the North side of Terre Haute. He asked my brother and his friends if they wanted to go to a "new church" on Sunday. My brother ran home and mom said sure. Little did we know where we were going. We rode the bus from Sky King Airport area to what is now WalMart area.

On the bus, we played very odd games. Who can put the most banana in their mouth and who can suck the koolaid out of the baby bottle the fastest. I thought it was odd but I was a kid.

We got there and were herded into a large room for Sunday school. Afterward, there was a lady. I will never forget how kind she appeared to be. She asked all of us "Are you saved?" If you answered yes, you went to the right. If no, you went to the left. My brother and his two friends were all younger than me, so they were not saved. I was...unfortunately. Now I do not mean that it was unfortunate that I have the love of Christ and he is in my heart. I simply mean that it was a very unfortunate thing on this day.

I watched my brother and our friends go off into another area while I and the other kids were led off. The lady moved us along at a breakneck pace. She pushed me to what I can only describe as a stall with a shower curtain on it, handed me a paper thin robe and said "Take off all your clothes, put this on. You're going to be baptized today. You want that don't you? To be guranteed entrance into heaven when you die? Without this, you'll certainly go to hell. You dont want that do you?" My little heart jumped into my throat. Hell? Of course not! No I dont want that!! So I followed her instructions.

I came back out and got back into line, was led up some steps and there he was. Waiting in the water. He motioned me down and I went. He "baptized" me and sent me up the other side of the stairs. I was told not to get dressed. He wanted to see me. I waited and he wrapped me in a towel when he came. He hugged me hard and groped me. Told me God loved me for what I did. Oficially creeped out now. But he was a "man of God"....I got dressed and went and sat down, feeling slightly important for the day. As service started I looked around and that's when I noticed the large men standing at the doors. And the chains on the doors. We were'nt leaving until he said we could.

As soon as I got home, I told my mother and father. My mom immediately called the mother of the friends that went with us.

If you remember when the scandal against FBC broke, there were several news stories. My mom was behind them. My mom was also behind letters to the editor of the Tribune Star.

Now to find out that this man is 10 miles from my house, scares me.

Friday, January 11, 2008 7:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ok. I am not saying what he did was right but I as a student was in many of his classes, went to church with him and in no way did I ever feel that he was inappropriate with any girl in our school and church and I was very close to his family and kids and I saw a lot that happened and nothing did. He was an excellent teacher and preacher! So I would not put him in a high position but I would not run him out of church!! I understand you are upset with him but that is in the past and you should forgive and move on! He is no longer my teacher because of this and believe me he is one of the greatest people to be a teacher! I miss him and believe he can turn this around and do something great!

Saturday, March 01, 2008 3:07:00 PM  
Blogger Christian said...

I don't think he should be ran out of church either. Church is what this man needs most. He was an excellant teacher, and even motivator. I will agree with that. But He does need to be out of leadership and Church Authority. He can't be trusted around women, or teenage girls.

Just because you didn't see it happen doesn't mean it didn't. You didn't see the earth be created, but it obviously was.

John Price violated me with his groping and kissing, he isn't going to do that in public for everyone to see.

Wednesday, March 05, 2008 9:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am a Pastor and Husband of one of the Twins that had a father as a Deacon. I do know that my father in law is a Godly and upright man. He is financially honest and has Integrity of the Highest Degree. I know his hand was fundamental in trying to sell off all of the Buildings at FBC to leave himself free in the matter of a good testimony. If my memory serves me correctly, He also paid personally in some of those areas. My wife attended a Christian College in Knoxville TN and the Pastor there gave us great insight into the matter of understanding how we as God's children should behave when faced with such difficult circumstances.

My comment is the following: John Price is paying for his sin. In addition, the worse judgment of all is still to follow. Our Lord Jesus Christ Says in his word: (Luke 6:28) Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you. Have we prayed for this man? That is the command of our Lord. I am not excusing what John Price has done; I am asking are we following the directive of our Lord? Christ loves this man just as much as any other man. My dear wife suffered emotionally because of some of the things that happened in the years that are supposed to be filled with the greatest degree of joy. However, we cannot continue to dwell on things from the past. If we do, John Price wins and so does Satan. (Philippians 3:13) Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before,

It is time to press on. Romans 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good, to them who love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

We must Ask God for his purpose and give him glory through every circumstance.

I was molested as a very young boy. I was molested by someone who was brought into our home by my parents. My parents were trying to be an encouragement to someone coming out of reform school. I was sexually molested in unimaginable ways. Yet I refuse to allow that to defeat God’s purpose for my life.

(Hebrews 12:15) Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled;

Do we not think the Devil has had his day, by this blog? He has the victory through this blog. How many lost people have read this blog and have been defiled? They are defiled because of bitterness.

If John Price tried to contact my family today, I would not allow the contact. Nevertheless, I am not eaten up with a bitter vindication that is not mine to give.

I happened upon this blog without trying to find this content in particular. I understand the visitation of this site, is God’s method of allowing me to see into the incredible hurts from the past in my wife’s life and the life of her childhood friends. I will be praying for the healing of all. May God Bless!

Friday, March 28, 2008 1:43:00 PM  
Blogger Dave Mallinak said...

Anonymous,

First, I share your concern that we not allow bitterness to seep in. If you will read the several other posts I have written, specifically to those affected by this issue, you will see that I have addressed this with a desire to help specifically with bitterness. And, judging by the many private conversations I have had over the past year and a half, this is happening.

Has the Devil had his day? Do we think that the Devil has his day when we deal with sin? Does the Devil have his day when people read the written account of David's sin with Bathsheba, and his subsequent repentance? Does the devil have his day when people read the written account of Samson, and his open sin with Delilah? Does the Devil have his day when people read the written account of Judas Iscariot?

I think it is a good thing for the world to see that we as Christians do not stand for this sort of thing. The name of Christ was trampled in the dirt in the Terre Haute area for many years by John Price. Still to this day, people in that area talk about Freedom, and are still impacted by it. I don't think we are serving the devil's purposes to expose the sin and deal with it openly.

Besides that, we put this up after John Price repeatedly attempted to gain yet another position in the ministry. Unfortunately, Price has many friends who would be glad to hide all of this under the carpet and grant him close, unsupervised access to teen girls.

Our purpose then is to give the innocent members of churches a means of knowing who John Price really is.

Your statement about what you would do if John Price tried to contact your family is very revealing. I think you agree in principle with what we have done here, but I also understand that it makes you uncomfortable.

I would be glad to continue a conversation with you about this via e-mail, if you like. Feel free to drop me a line. My e-mail is: pmallinak@berean-baptist-utah.com

Friday, March 28, 2008 3:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm the "anonymous" from May 7, 2007. The one who was sexually abused by John Price when I was 13 and he was 16.

I just wanted to say that I don't think this blog is about bitterness. It is about keeping track of a man who refuses to face his sickness and sin, and to keep him from striking again. (Although it's hard to believe that he hasn't found some way to do that, whether or not he's in a pastor position.)

Keep up the good work, Dave.

Thank you and bless you.

Monday, April 28, 2008 10:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Fred Poett said...

Having served the Lord for over 35 years as a pastor, Christian school Bible teacher, Christian camp director, adult Sunday school teacher, and other positions in Independent Fundamental Baptist churches and schools, I feel that I am qualified to speak on certain topics, especially ones I have been personally involved with.

In this blog there have been many comments made, (by people who were personally involved and some who weren’t), about John Price and all that took place at Freedom Baptist Church in the 1980's and 90's. A whole book could be written about all that happened.

Some folks think that the people who were involved with these sad events should, after all these years, get over it, get on with their lives and not have a vengeful spirit about them; and that they should be forgiving and pray for Price.

I will try to explain my position and say other things that are relevant. I can only speak for myself and my family. I cannot speak for any one else. Everyone who was involved with these tragic events has been dealing with it in his or her own way, in the past and today too. Well, forgiving through the grace of God can, and should be done. Matt. 6:14-15; Matt. 18: 21-22; Mark 11:25-26. But, no one who has ever been abused will ever forget it. You might not harbor bad feelings about the person but it was something bad that happened in your life and you will not forget about it. I forgave Price years ago for all that he did but to my knowledge he has never confessed to any of those sins and he has always denied that he ever did anything wrong although the evidence is overwhelmingly against him. He has apologized to very few, if any, of his victims. No doubt pride plays a part in the lives of those who do not confess their sins. And another character trait of people like Price is that they believe they are above the law and can do what they want to and get away with it.

Some have said to just move on with your life and don’t be so vengeful. As far as moving on with one’s life, since the church was sold and the debts paid, my wife and I have served the Lord with His help. At one church we served in, the pastor wanted to know some of the things that happened at Freedom Baptist, so I told him a few of the things. He said, "Well, you seem to have survived. Yes, and we are still serving the Lord and will til He comes again or takes us home.

But why continue to try to bring Price down? Why the vengeful attitude? Let God take care of him, some say. Price will stand before God one day and give an account of his life, and, by the way, so will all of us. Rom. 14:10; I Cor. 3:11-15. But that is one area that Price and many other preachers just don’t seem to get. They think they can do as they please and get away with it. Many so-called pastors have committed rapes, adultery, stealing, and have gotten away with it. But they forget that they are accountable to almighty God and to their fellow men. I Tim. 3:7. Price has broken some laws that need to be dealt with and he and others like him need to be held accountable. They need to be in jail.

We hear every day about criminals who are loose on the streets and they continue to commit crimes and we cry out "Why are they free to do so?" What would you do if one of your children was molested by a sexual predator? What action would you take if you knew of one in your church, school, or neighborhood and nothing was ever done about it?

Would you say, "Well, bless God let’s just not say or do anything about it and "just sweep it under the rug". By the way, that is what one pastor in the Knoxville area told us to do when we were checking out Bible colleges for our daughters. Obviously, they did not enroll in that college.

Folks, this whole Freedom Baptist fiasco is still an issue and it needs to be dealt with. It isn’t about forgiving and forgetting. It is about holding accountable the John Prices who molest children, commit adultery, rape, stealing, lying, and dishonest practices. It isn’t about people who are bitter and are trying to "get" Price with revenge in their hearts. But it is about exposing these types of people for who and what they are and to warn and protect others so that they and their children will not become a victim of these predators. John Price and others like him have disqualified themselves from ever being in a position of being a pastor or of any type of leadership. That is why I appreciate what Pastor David Mallinak is doing. Price should never be allowed to be a pastor or teacher ever again.

To be sure, he needs prayer, counsel, and help. Sure, he needs to be allowed to attend church and to hear the preaching of God’s Word because that would be a big help to him. But we must consider a couple of questions. One is: Would Price and people like him, who don’t believe they do anything wrong, even seek help or counsel? Two: Would a church welcome him with open arms, especially if he has never dealt with his past actions?

I can’t answer these questions and only time will tell.

Just forget about what happened and go on with my life? Well, I am going on with my life but I respectfully decline to take the advice to forget about it. If I am wrong then that is something I will have to give an account for; but if one young precious life is spared the advances of a sexual predator, if a home is salvaged, or if a church or Christian school is spared the shame, then it will be worth it. Fred Poett.

Thursday, May 15, 2008 9:08:00 PM  
Blogger Dave Mallinak said...

And thank you, Fred, for your comment. It was very well spoken, and expresses at length my sentiments on this.

All,

I will be out of town (visiting in Terre Haute) for a couple of weeks, and I doubt I will get much time for blogging. But when I return, I do intend to re-visit this issue in more depth.

Friday, May 16, 2008 8:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Jessica Baker said...

I agree with my dad and might I add, if IFB leaders are not willing to expose and "dethrone" the predators they do know about, then they shouldn't preach against the Catholic church who does the exact same thing - that is, hush up the scandal and move the priests to another congregation. There is no difference.

Friday, May 16, 2008 9:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I appreciate all that you are doing here, David. It is sad that many of us were blind to this for so long. Be careful whenever someone preaches that they are the unquestionable representative of God...there just might be a reason they don't want to be questioned. I wish the best to all of you. Seeing some of the names on this post do bring back some fond memories of the wonderful people at FBC. I hope you all are doing well.

Daniel Mallinak

Saturday, July 12, 2008 5:53:00 AM  
Blogger Cathy said...

This comment has been removed by the author.

Monday, November 17, 2008 10:05:00 AM  
Blogger Dave Mallinak said...

Where did you get this information?

Monday, November 17, 2008 4:01:00 PM  
Blogger Cathy said...

Google

Tuesday, November 18, 2008 10:19:00 AM  
Blogger Dave Mallinak said...

Cathy, I found what you were talking about, but the printed article was from 2006... I know for a fact that John Price was living in Brazil, Indiana at the time. I have that from several reliable sources. And, I can pretty much vouch for his continual residence in Brazil up until the spring of this year... he may still be living there, too. I'm not sure at the moment.

Tuesday, November 18, 2008 1:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Published: May 23, 2008

ESSENTIAL GRADUATION INFORMATION

Graduation ceremonies for the class of 2008 are set for 7 p.m. on May 23 at Temple Baptist Church in Abingdon.

The commencement address will be delivered by John W. Price, pastor of Temple Baptist Church.

Found this online and it is updated..don't know if it the same or not...might help in your quest..

Monday, December 01, 2008 11:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank you Dave for this post. I do however have some concerns. I was a student at Greenwood Bible Baptist during the time Bro. Price served as principal. This deeply concerns me. He never, while serving there, attempted anything of this sort, which comforts me( I would know if he did). But he still never should have been able to hold the position of principal. He served in our church for at least five years prior to teaching. During all this time Pastor Todd Poynter knew nothing of his previous actions. I do not understand how it took you and all these zealous bloggers so long to contact and warn him. And then I read smears of Poynter and HAC people. I do not understand.

Wednesday, December 24, 2008 9:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did Pastor Todd Poynter remove John Price?

Saturday, May 01, 2010 7:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is this the same Pastor John Price that was married to Cindy Price Murdock and sent to prison in 2001 for rape?

Thursday, May 27, 2010 4:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Michelle Blanton said...

Okay the pastor at my old church in Madisonville, KY, John Price, went to prison for the same thing. IS IT THE SAME GUY?
Here is the link to his jail page. Let me know if its him.
http://apps.corrections.ky.gov/KOOL/ioffres.asp?Inm=246410&Action=Detail&Pagenum=1

Friday, August 27, 2010 10:07:00 AM  
Anonymous jeux casino said...

Graduation ceremonies for the class was so interesting. I liked story for John W. Price, pastor of Temple Baptist Church.
Thank for information!

Thursday, December 02, 2010 4:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I know that not many people read this forum anymore, but I know that John Price does.

I am one of his victims. John has attempted twice to become Facebook friends with a close relative of mine. John, I did not remain silent about what you did to me. Take a hint when this person does not accept your friend request.

If it would help you to understand, I'm happy to bring it up to you directly next time I see you.

Monday, August 29, 2011 7:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was not part of IBF but of a non-denominational church in Arleta, CA. I was a member for about 12 years. I was in the Pastor's office at least once a week begging for his help, as my husband was abusing my children and myself. He kept telling me to stay with him (the monster). We are talking about 12 long years of begging for help. In the end, with my family's help, I was able to leave him in spite of the Pastor's commands. Now my children who are adults and I still suffer today for our Pastor's inaction's and those actions of the monster I was married to. Several years later he was accused of embezzlement and he chose to leave. I guess just knowing that he wasn't pastoring that church anymore gave me some satisfaction, until I found he was a couple years out pastoring another church. It breaks my heart that he might hurt some other women and their children. I'm just not sure what my responsibility is to this new church of people. He was Never repentant to me or my children. I thank you David for bringing this to light. Pastors must be held accountable for their sins against humanity.

Monday, January 02, 2012 6:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As of this week, John Price's wife is divorcing him. I think she's finally had enough. I'll be praying for her.

Thursday, February 23, 2012 7:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I only found out about this site earlier this week, but after reading the many comments posted, feel it important to tell my story. I also can attest to the many stated facts in these blogs, as many of the stories are referring to me.

I must say that reading through this site, seeing the many people that I spent my childhood with speak with support and not with judgement was quite a shock for me. I have for so many years carried so much guilt and shame, that I never expected this response.

One mentioned returning to the site of our church, which is now a retail site, and remembering so many happy memories. I too remember so many fun times and friendships. But I also have nightmares of that same place, and feelings of dread just driving into the parking lot of the retail store.

For those that may doubt validity in this or wonder why I may not have stopped what happened over a period of 3 years - let me start by saying that this pastor was a master of manipulation. Looking back now, I realize where the manipulation started, with conversations emphasizing my insecurities as a young girl, putting doubt in my mind about the relationships I had with my family and father, then comforting me, listening to me, and offering to be my "father". I trusted him, and he used that trust.

Once the abuse began, the comforting, kind "father figure" became controlling and threatening. I was confused, ashamed, and scared. He would often tell me that God had a purpose for everyone - a mission for their life. Mine was just this. He would tell me over and over that no one would ever believe me - after all, he was the pastor - the man of God. And that if I ever said a word - he would shame me in front of the entire church - that he would make me out to be a liar and worse. I had no doubt in my mind that he would do this - I had seen it happen to other people in different circumstances.

The worst part came the day I thought I was pregnant - and he offered to either drive me to Indianapolis for an abortion, or ship me off to the west coast and provide money for me. I was terrified, and alone.

Hope finally came when he announced he was leaving to go to Fairhaven. For the first time, I realized that I would be ok. I finished high school, went on to college a stronger person - determined that this would never happen again. 8 months later, I began college, and he was there for the first 6 months of my freshman year. But that 8 months had made me determined that I would not let this happen again.

For years, I carried this burden of guilt and shame - guilt that I didn't tell someone, guilt that it was my fault. I didn't want anyone to know about it - because I was so ashamed.

Now, I look back at that time of my life. I can see how it made me the strong person that I am today. As difficult as it was, it molded me and prepared me and I am proud to have not only survived it, but to have a happy, healthy relationship with my husband and a wonderful family today.

I want to thank Pastor Dave for being where he was when he was - for trying to stop what was happening. I didn't have the courage or strength at the time to agree, but he was brave and persistent and I will remember it forever.

John Price used to say - you will never forget me as long as you live - because this will ruin your life. My only comment to him is that it didn't - he didn't win!

For all my classmates at Freedom Baptist, reading this blog makes me remember the fun times. I realize that last summer there was a bit of a reunion - and for obvious reasons, I chose not to attend. I hope someday in the future there will be another and that I will be able to attend. I would love the chance to see you again.

Wednesday, March 21, 2012 2:14:00 PM  
Blogger Dave Mallinak said...

The previous comment was moved from a different post, where it was initially placed. I moved it to this post because I am removing the other. The commentor is known to me, and is one of John Price's victims.

Wednesday, March 21, 2012 2:16:00 PM  
Anonymous mary r said...

daniel said...

by your own account, this matter has already been brought before the authorities that God has instituted to judge these kinds of matters. Namely, the police and court systems...By putting this online, you have done nothing more than attempt to have this matter rejudged, which is unbiblical... But this blog is nothing but libel.

First of all, this was never brought to court for John Price to be judged by man. There are several reasons why, which I can explain later if you would like to know some of them. Secondly, if this is libel and John Price is innocent, why isn't he fighting this? If my husband had these accusations brought against him time after time, I know we would BOTH be fighting this, but yet you never hear from John or his wife. I wonder why that is... I would almost like to see John try to sue for libel. Maybe then we could see some justice done.

Unfortunately for John Price, we live in an information age - the computer is at our fingertips, and this is the best way to get information out. I also believe it is our duty not to be vengeful, but warn other pastors and churches of John's conduct from our personal experience. I spoke personally with Pastor P. about my experiences with John Price. I asked him if he had any questions, which he did, and I did my best to answer them. This is not a witch hunt, but don't we owe it to potential new victims of this man to do everything in our power to stop him?

Wednesday, March 21, 2012 2:18:00 PM  
Blogger Dave Mallinak said...

The above comment was also posted originally on a different, now removed post. I moved it here today. Initially, it was posted on February 9, 2007. Also, the post from "anonymous" which I just moved was posted on February 4, 2007.

Wednesday, March 21, 2012 2:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

John Price is currently teaching Sunday school from the pulpit of his father's church, Ebenezer Church in Brazil, Indiana. He started "teaching" from the pulpit a couple of months ago. I have several friends attending that church, some of them having attended for many years. It is looking to them as though John's father, Bill, may be grooming John to take over the church someday. Bill is in his 80s and probably cannot keep doing the job much longer. I'm praying that the people of Ebenezer will do SOMETHING about this. I've heard from two of them who just want John to LEAVE, but this will never happen unless the congregation confronts the problem. Since the church has been set up with NO elders, there is no Biblical format to follow when something like this hideousness comes along. John's parents are both aware of this website and of all that John has done (and is STILL doing) and have done nothing but protect him. These are not spiritual leaders. How can you put a sexual predator in the pulpit and expect people to ignore it?

If the congregation does not directly deal with this awful situation, John will stay, probably become the regular preacher, and will have access to "counseling" young women again. And we all know what that means. Please, if you go to Ebenezer and you are reading this, pray, consider, and confront.

Thursday, June 07, 2012 4:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

John Price is currently planning to marry a woman he had an affair with 25 years ago. He has hurt and devastated so many over the years and continues to do so today. I am sickened over the manipulation, perversion and control he continues to exercise today. I can't believe any church would choose to have him pastor, counsel or lead. Wake up people!!! Ebenezer Church.... STAND UP AND STOP THIS!!! This poor family of the woman he is marrying is again being violated by John Price's perversness again! Why church are you choosing to ignore this? I believe in God's perfect timing, but I also believe that God expects the body of Christ (the church) to take a stand. Are you ready Ebenezer Church to have your young girls violated? Husbands are you ready for your wives to be "counseled" in private? He has hurt and violated so many. Don't let your daughter, sister or wife become John Price's next victim!

Tuesday, July 17, 2012 7:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dave,

Steve Marsh here from waaay back in the day. Glad to see that you've kept a good head on your shoulders. As far as Price goes - I am no longer surprised at what fundie pastors are capable of doing (especially those associated with the Hyles school). Pastor worship seems to frequently end in stories such as this; I mean, fundie pastors claim control over much of their members' lives - why not extend that to the bodies of their children? We visited Freedom when I was in junior high - didn't stay, thankfully. I recall the 8x10 glossies of his mug in every room with "we love our pastor!" next to each picture - that's healthy? Very sad that these men destroy so much; as long as they're soulwinning and bringing in good numbers on the bus, though, everything is cool.

Speaking of Hyles - breaking news has Jack Schaap pulling a Price, as it were (allegedly); that story is developing. Check out www.stufffundieslike.com if you're interested in that story.

Keep up the good work. Silence is destructive.

Steve

Tuesday, July 31, 2012 10:52:00 AM  
Blogger Dave Mallinak said...

Steve Marsh,

I would love to talk to you sometime, just to catch up and see how you are doing. Send me an e-mail when you like.

For those who are interested, Steve and I were 4th grade academic rivals - Steve was smarter than me. We were both nerds. He probably still is!

Wednesday, August 01, 2012 11:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The more the onion is peeled, the more rot we find.

Some of you at Ebenezer Church have chosen to remain quiet about the John Price travesty. It seems that with regard to this issue there are four general categories of congregation members:

Category One:

You know that John is guilty of all that you’ve been told, but you have your reasons for keeping quiet. You don’t want to rock the boat. You don’t want to ruffle the feathers of your own ease and comfort just to stand up for the truth. Or maybe you don’t want to hurt Bill Price. (I will address this issue in a moment.) You think if you ignore it all long enough, maybe it will DISAPPEAR and life at church can go along on its merry way. At least one of you has actually spoken these words: “I don’t care WHAT John has done. I’m not getting involved.” To you I say “Shame. Shame on you.” Would you speak those same words into the face of a teenage girl John has just raped? What about if it were your daughter? Would you sweep it under the rug?

Category Two:

You’re not quite sure if all these unspeakable accusations against John Price are true. Instead of investigating and finding out for yourself, you have chosen to put your head in the sand. La la la. Maybe all this will just DISAPPEAR.

Category Three:

You are of the belief that John is a nice boy and gosh, always has been. His father is a wonderful man, a good preacher, and a man of high moral standing who is baffled as to why his family is being persecuted. These horrible accusations are just mean and some kind of odd vendetta against poor John, and why on earth would anyone say such things? Why won’t this all just DISAPPEAR?

Category Four:

You know the truth: John is a sexual predator. You know that he has forced himself sexually (the accurate word is “raped”) on many young women for many, many years. You have spoken up. You have managed with your protests to get him out of the pulpit at Ebenezer, for the time being. Finally he has skulked away as cowards do, knowing that the heat has been turned up and his feet are being held to the fire. (An appropriate metaphor, I think for this situation, if John is headed where it looks as though he’s headed.) You feel shaken by the entire situation, and sickened by it. You’re not sure whom to trust. You just wish John would DISAPPEAR.


I am writing this post to tell you, no matter which category you most identify with, the even more difficult-to-absorb truth: Not only are the accusations about John true, but Bill has been aware of John’s disgusting behavior the entire time. It’s become almost a full time job for Bill and Jackie to fill the air with “Poor John. He’s had such a rough year,” in their attempt to circle the wagons to protect someone who belongs in prison. For those of you who have said, “I don’t want to hurt Bill,” you really should know who you’re protecting. Do you know that as far back as the 1990s Bill went to talk to the father of one of John’s victims, and admitted to the father that “John has problems being around young girls.” Do you know that Bill and Jackie have been aware of the long, long affair that John has been involved in (for 22 years) with his “new” girlfriend?

There is so much more to the story, which sadly is NOT just a story. The details will come out. It adds up to a numbingly awful history of pain left in the wake of John’s predatory and repetitive behavior.

Monday, August 13, 2012 6:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Part Two of Comment (The comments section has a word limit, so here is the rest.)

Do you ever wonder why there are no elders or deacons at Bill’s church, and why Bill has set it up this way? Do you ever wonder why you, the congregation, are never allowed to see the accounting of where your money goes? The accounting of the money should be literally and figuratively an open book for the members of the church. At Ebenezer, it is not. You do not get to know where the money goes. It is none of your business.

Oh, you say, but Bill delivers such wonderful sermons!

I will agree with you on one piece of this: Bill knows his Bible. So does John. They know the Bible inside and out. And so does Satan. Bill was a high school speech teacher. He’s skilled at public speaking. So what? Speaking pretty words from behind a pulpit means nothing when you are using the pulpit to hide the evil that you are covering up.

James 2:19 - You say you have faith, for you believe that there is one God. Good for you! Even the demons believe this, and they tremble in terror


There will be a final accounting for all of us, for those who are pursuing the truth fervently, and for those who run from it. Those of us who are pursuing the truth are brokenhearted by what we’re finding out. Every new discovery is like swallowing acid. It is literally sickening to find out that the pastor you trusted (even though his wife’s gossip continually “poisoned the well” of the church) is not the man we believed him to be. It’s almost impossible to mentally process the years of deception that Bill Price has knowingly involved himself with. But it is necessary to face reality, ugly though it may be. We are circling our wagons, too.


I know that there are more who would speak up, but who perhaps have confided in Bill about their own personal problems over the years as his church members, and are fearful of him because of this. I also know that Jackie has a way of getting her face in yours and intimidating you. Trust me, she is more afraid of you than you are of her. She knows that the truth is surfacing.

None of this is going to disappear. With your courage and commitment to your Lord, your refusal to turn away from what is right in front of you, there is the chance for repentance, for both Bill and John, and for Jackie. If you saw them being pulled under in quicksand, would you throw them a rope to help them get out? Or would you turn your back on their wailing cries for help? They are being pulled under now, by their own lies.

Even if you can’t find any compassion within yourself for John’s numerous victims, consider carefully where you find yourself standing. Do you care about saving this church? With the Lord’s help, it can be done, but He will not bless a church whose consistent currency is lies. Don’t be pulled under with them.

2 Timothy 1:7 - For God has not given us a spirit of fear and timidity, but of power, love, and self-discipline.

Monday, August 13, 2012 6:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does anyone know if John Price has yet married the woman he has been in a long time affair with? Why has no one said her name? She is part of the plan for him to get into a pulpit. Seems to me that one as "pure as the driven snow" would not live in sin with his "girlfriend" and her child without being married. Is he still being groomed for the pulpit of his fathers church?

Why is this molester and rapist not in jail? What woman would choose to be with this kind of abuser?Is no one willing to come forward and confront this man in a court of law. We see in the news coaches and men like Jack Schaap in trouble with the law for similar, yet maybe not as many instances as John Price. Reading all the comments posted here seems like there is plenty of people whose lives have been devastated because of this man.

How about you members of Ebenezer Church??? Are you waiting for him to molest your daughter or rape your wife or destroy your home? How do you feel when you are just sitting back, silent, knowing all the while you are harboring a PREDATOR!
And to Bill and Jackie, how do you continue to defend and protect him?

He is not going to disappear or just go away. He will stay until he reeks more havoc on more girls and women!!! WAKE UP EBENEZER CHURCH!!!!! TAKE ACTION!!!!

Saturday, September 15, 2012 9:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To Anonymous from 9/15/12: I'm willing to come forward and confront him in a court of law. But I can't do it alone. There has to be numerous girls that this has happened to over the years. From the posts on this blog, I would say that John has been doing it for roughly 35-40 years? I find it hard to believe that there are only a few girls. With the statute of limitations being what it is in the state of Indiana, my understanding is if the girl was under the age of 16 it can still be prosecuted. But I doubt any Prosecutor would touch this unless there are numerous girls.

I don't know much about the Ebenezer Church. But it saddens me to think that he migh have access again to girls.

Tuesday, September 18, 2012 2:48:00 PM  
Blogger Robin said...

Pastor Dave-
I have so much respect for you for standing up against this. I have been in a similar situation with a predator preacher and here is the newspaper article describing it.
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/religion/20120804-dallas-minister-puts-assault-of-teen-behind-him-but-others-cant.ece

I am the Robin in the article and the man was my youth minister. He is now running the church where I grew up (we left because of him)and he has not stepped down even after the article came out. It's about control from a narcissist. There has to be something that we can do to stop these predators from being able to work at churches again. This needs to be illegal. My youth minister actually was on America's Most Wanted and went to prison and he's wormed his way back into the fold. Frightening. Great job speaking out and remaining vigilant! I am sure you helped many by getting the word out! Blessings! Robin

Wednesday, October 03, 2012 3:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Very sad. To those wondering, John Price is married to Sally Robinson. Previously married to Bucky Robinson which many of you here know. John and Sally started this affair 25 years ago. Many have been hurt, devasted and ruined because of their very REPULSIVE relationship. Especially all children involved. Terri Price and her girls have suffered the same hurt and devastation. Sally Isles Robinson now Price is and has been involved in the intentional coverup of John Price's rapes, molestings and financial schemes for years. It's hard to believe how quiet you members are about all this. Many of you are upset and enraged at John Price and his "new bride".

Church!!!!!!! Stand up and fight! Only YOU can keep him out of the pulpit! Don't be afraid!!!!

BE STRONG CHURCH! Don't sit back quietly and let him pastor GODS church! YOUR church! Think of your WIVES, SISTERS, DAUGHTERS!!!! FIGHT TO PROTECT THEM FROM THIS PREDATOR AND HIS PARTNER!

Sunday, October 14, 2012 9:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Of interest to your readers, Dave.

http://thetruthaboutjohn.blog.com/

Tuesday, March 12, 2013 6:49:00 PM  

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